Can Mature Games Work on the Wii?

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Post by RollingSilver on Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:26 pm

i think the problem for the lack of sales for mature wii titles is primarily due to gamers not purchasing them. the casuals have some fault as well, but how would a casual know a thing or two about games if his/her hobbies are anything but gaming related? the gamers have a huge responsibility for this because of their elitist attitude towards the wii; anything fancy software-wise will have them bickering on why it should belong on the 360/ps3 instead of the wii. they will bring up sales and faulty speculations of demographics to prove their point. also, they'll just groan and moan about it being a wii exclusive

here's an example:

although the ps3/360 crowd may not agree with some of these games, you get the idea.

the solution: persuasion in a professional manner. blogs, videos, vlogs, etc.
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Post by sikokiller on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:52 am

RollingSilver wrote:i think the problem for the lack of sales for mature wii titles is primarily due to gamers not purchasing them. the casuals have some fault as well, but how would a casual know a thing or two about games if his/her hobbies are anything but gaming related? the gamers have a huge responsibility for this because of their elitist attitude towards the wii; anything fancy software-wise will have them bickering on why it should belong on the 360/ps3 instead of the wii. they will bring up sales and faulty speculations of demographics to prove their point. also, they'll just groan and moan about it being a wii exclusive

here's an example:

although the ps3/360 crowd may not agree with some of these games, you get the idea.

the solution: persuasion in a professional manner. blogs, videos, vlogs, etc.

hehe i love that example.. im still seeing that in comments on youtube.. like red steel 2?
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Re: Can Mature Games Work on the Wii?

Post by darkwingdragon709 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:59 am

another problem is the fact that these games NEVER get any advertisin outside of a few rinky dink gamesite ads that either get ignored anyway, or the fact that casuals don't look at such sites. or it could be the simple fact that none of the wii's mature games are AAA efforts like the ones on 360/ps3. sure some may be exellent games like no more heroes and muramasa, but those games simply don't have same work and money put into them like mature games like oblivion, fallout, GTA etc which simply attract people more...even some casuals. its not so much that mature games can't sell on the wii, its that most of them simply aren't THAT good or not worth the time/money for some people.

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Post by RollingSilver on Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:46 pm

darkwingdragon709 wrote:another problem is the fact that these games NEVER get any advertisin outside of a few rinky dink gamesite ads that either get ignored anyway, or the fact that casuals don't look at such sites. or it could be the simple fact that none of the wii's mature games are AAA efforts like the ones on 360/ps3. sure some may be exellent games like no more heroes and muramasa, but those games simply don't have same work and money put into them like mature games like oblivion, fallout, GTA etc which simply attract people more...even some casuals. its not so much that mature games can't sell on the wii, its that most of them simply aren't THAT good or not worth the time/money for some people.

hmmm, now that you mention it, i always hear people talk about games that have a 8.5+. then by that logic, a game has to have a good score for it to be playable rather than the style, the presentation, art, etc.

so tekken 6 is bad because it has an 83 on metacritic
disgaea 3 must be bad because it has a 75 on metacritic
mirrors edge must be bad because it has a 79 on metacritic
tales of vesperia must be bad because it has a 79 on metacritic

it should be more about the appeal than the scores, am i right?
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Re: Can Mature Games Work on the Wii?

Post by darkwingdragon709 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:08 pm

RollingSilver wrote:
darkwingdragon709 wrote:another problem is the fact that these games NEVER get any advertisin outside of a few rinky dink gamesite ads that either get ignored anyway, or the fact that casuals don't look at such sites. or it could be the simple fact that none of the wii's mature games are AAA efforts like the ones on 360/ps3. sure some may be exellent games like no more heroes and muramasa, but those games simply don't have same work and money put into them like mature games like oblivion, fallout, GTA etc which simply attract people more...even some casuals. its not so much that mature games can't sell on the wii, its that most of them simply aren't THAT good or not worth the time/money for some people.

hmmm, now that you mention it, i always hear people talk about games that have a 8.5+. then by that logic, a game has to have a good score for it to be playable rather than the style, the presentation, art, etc.

so tekken 6 is bad because it has an 83 on metacritic
disgaea 3 must be bad because it has a 75 on metacritic
mirrors edge must be bad because it has a 79 on metacritic
tales of vesperia must be bad because it has a 79 on metacritic

it should be more about the appeal than the scores, am i right?
yes you are. though i really didn't care for mirrors edge much, all the game you mentioned are great. simply cause they aren't AAA(except maybe tekken)does't mean they don't deserve good sales.

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